NameElizabeth CLOPTON
Birthabt 1530, Of Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire
DeathMar 1581, Camborne Cornwall Eng
Burial22 Mar 1581, Camborne Cornwall Eng
Spouses
Birthabt 1528, Trerice,CON
Deathabt 1580, Camborne,CON
Notes for Robert (Spouse 1)
2nd son of Sir John Arundell. Left house at Camborne in father’s Will.
Son and heir of his grandmother. (Mentioned in “Visitations”)
Gentleman’s magazine Vol99 Sept 16th1829.
Mr URBAN,
It is one of the most useful objects of the Gentleman’s magazine to collect those notices of distinguished families which accidentally present themselbves in genealogical inquiries; and the value of of these “dijecta membra” depends upon the extent of the information they afford, the importance of the errors they correct, and the rank and repute of the persons to whom they refer.
These considerations justify me, it is hoped, in sending you the following particulars relative to the ancient house of ARUNDELL OF TRERICE in Cornwall, the representative of which, Richard Arundell esq. was created baron Arundell of Trerice in 16 Car. 11.
Sir John Arundell of Trerice, Vice Admiral of Cornwall, and some time Esquire of the body to Henry the Eighth, the great grandfather of the first Baron of Trerice, died in the 3rd Eliz. Amongst several other children he is stated to have had Robert Arundell of Methadarva (Menedarva) in Cornwall .....’s thus noticed in a distinct ...... that the county in the British Museum: “Robert Arundell. 2 sonne of Sir John Arundell to Elizabeth, dau of William Clopton of Stafford.”
Nothing appears from this entry to create a suspicion of the legitimacy of the said Robert Arundell, though he is wholly omitted in the Trerice pedigree; but unquestionable evidence exists to prove that he was a natural son and , as the fact tends to correct the last Visitation of Cornwall, it is deserving of attention.
By a deed of feoffment, dated 4th january, 1 Edw. VI. 1547-8, recited in the inquisition taken after the death of Sir John Arundell anno 3 Eliuz. the said Sir John Arundell enfeoffed Thomas Arundell of leigh, John Polwjele, and John Coysworth, and their heirs of divers lands, and amongst others Methadarva in trust for this Robert Arundell, who in the said deed is described as “Roberto Arindell filio meo bastardo”, and the heirs of his body, and in default of such issue to John Arundell, lawful son of th said Sir John and the heirs of his body with remainder the the daighters od the said Sir John, with remainder to the right heirs of Sir John for ever.
By another deed dated 26 january, 2 Eliz. 1560, which is also recited in the same inquisition, the said Sir John Arundell enfeoffed the trustees above mentioned jointly with this Robert Arundell, under like designation, of divers lands in trust for the said John Arundell, son of Sir John and his heirs.
This Robert Arundell was one of his putative father’s executors, and was twice married; first to Elinor, daughter of --- Southwood, by whom he had no issue; and secondly to Elizabeth, daughter of William Clopton, of the county of Stafford, the representative of the ancient family of that name , and of Sir Hugh Clopton who built the bridge of Stratford-upon-Avon. By her Mr Arundell had a numerous family, the lands of Methadarva, which were settled on him by the above mentioned deed
Harlein MS 1162 F 83. In the copy of that visitaion in the College of Arms, C.i. f. 328, he is thus entered;
Johannes Arundell Mile de... = _______ Robertus Arundell de camborne in comit. Corr....biae Miles 2 filius.
............sent represenatative, being his heir general, as well as heir male, is William Arundell Harris Arundell. of Kenegie in Cornwall, and Lifton in Devon, esq. whose grandfather assumed the name of Harris. The present Mr Arundell has, however, lately reassumed the name of Arundell, but exhibits the anomaly of bearing the coat of Harris, the the first quarter, no arms, having been assigned to his ancestor Robet Arundell, at the Visitation, and the proof of his illegitimacy, which has been lately discovered, of course prevents the College of Heralds from assigning him the arms of Arundell of Trerice, without all the usual distinctions of bastardy.
There is, howeve, cause to believe that Robert Arundell used the coat of his father, without any abatement, as I have in my possession a silver seal of that family, whic is at least as old a the reign of E;izabeth, and which came into my hands from his daughter Grace, who married Robert Tresteane of Trenowa in Cornwall, so that I can have no other motive for establishing this stain on his birth, than the desire to correct error.
These facts show also upon what total want of foundation reports are often circulated. At the time of the late coronation it was commonly said , that Mr Arundell Harris was about to claim the Borony of Arundell of Trerice, or to founbd a pretension to the revival of that honour in his person as an heir male of that ancient family; whereas it appears that the dignity was limited to the heris male of the body of the individual created Baron of Arundell of Trerice by Charles the Second, and became extinct in 1768, on the death of his great hgrandson John the fourth Baron; and, moreover that Mr Harris Arundell’s descent is from an illegitiame line, through which he could derive no pretension to the hours of that house; hence it is quite impossible that such an idea could have entered the gentleman’s head.
The legal representatives of the Lords Arundell of Trerice are I.T.PBettesworth Trevanion of Carbayes in Cornwall esq. and the Hon Ada Byron, thsy being the descendants of the body of Anne or Agnes the only sister that left issue of Richard the first Baron Arundell. H.
This deed solves the problem of Charles Henderson, A History of the Parish of Constantne in Cornwall, p.165: 'How Treworvack passed from the Arundells of Trerice to the Arundells of Lanherne, between 1558 and 1659, is very strange. The two families were very remotely (if at all) related to one another. However, Robert;s maternal grandmother was Jane Grenville and her sister Katherine married Sir John Arundell of Lanherne.
(27 Eliz) Bargain and sale, Robert Arundell of Menaderva, esquire, and Christopher Arundell his son and heir apparent = (1)-(2). Sir John Arundell of Lanherne, knight = (3). Consideration: £45 paid by (3) to (1)-(2). 91)-(2) to (3), their messuages, lands, tenements, rents, reversions, remainders, services, meadows, pastures, feedings, moors, waste grounds, etc., in Trewheverack (parish of Constentyn), together with all writings, evidences, etc.; for (3) and his heirs to hold for ever, to his sole use, of the chief lords of the fee, by rents and services due and accustomed. Covenant that the premises are free from encumbrances, except for the chief rent and service due to the chief lords; covenant of peaceable occupation. Signatures of (1)-(2). [dorse] Note of sealing and delivery. 2 seals, of (1)-(2). Trewheverack [Treworvack in Constantine; tenement of Prospidnick manor] 1584, 10th Dec
Gift and feoffment to use Robert Arundell de Menaderva, esquire, and Christopher Arundell his son and heir = (1)-(2). John Arundell of Lanherne, knight = (3)(1)-(2) to (3), in part performance of an agreement made between them, all their messuages, lands, tenements, rents, reversions, remainders, services, etc., in Trewheverack (parish of Constentyn); for (3) and his heirs to hold for ever, to his sole use, of the chief lords of the fee, by rents and services due and accustomed. Warranty. Appointment of William Williams and Edward Vivian as attorneys to deliver seisin. Signatures of (1)-(2). [dorse] Note of sealing and delivery. 2 seals [of (1)-(2)]. Trewheverack [Treworvack in Constantine; tenement of Prospidnick manor]
1585, Easter term Final concord; with counterpart. John Arundell, knight, claimant = (1). Robert Arundell esquire, Elizabeth his wife, Christopher Arundell esquire and Katherine his wife, deforciants = (2)-(5). 1 messuage, 2 tofts, 2 gardens, 60 acres of land, 10 acres of meadow, 20 acres of pasture and 40 acres of furze and heath in Trewheverack (Constentyn); (2)-(5) acknowledge them to be the right of (1) as by their gift, and quitclaimed them to him and his heirs for ever. Warranty by (2)-(5) against themselves, their heirs, and the heirs of John Arundell of Trerice, knight (deceased). For this (1) gave £41 to (2)-(5).